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JourFixe-2025-07-21

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Date and place

Monday, 21 July 2025 from 13:00 – 15:10 at VC meeting in BBB.

If you like to participate at the Jour Fixe, please join our BigBlueButton-based Jour Fixe VC!
We recommend to use BBB in Chrome (or Firefox).

1 Appointments

Workshops / Working Groups

If you want to participate at one of the above mentioned workshops, please register for the related session. This helps to organise the workshop. Thanks!

Jour Fixe

  • Monday, 04 August 2025, 13:00 - 17:00
  • Monday, 18 August 2025, 13:00 - 17:00
  • Monday, 01 September 2025, 13:00 - 17:00
  • Monday, 15 September 2025, 13:00 - 17:00
  • Monday, 29 September 2025, 13:00 - 17:00

DeVCONF

The next ILIAS Development Conference takes place at 10 and 11 September 2025 at University of Marburg. We start on Wednesday at 13:00 and end on Thursday at 13:00.

2 Technical Board

This topic on our agenda should improve the information flow between the Technical Board and the society members and ILIAS users.

Abandoned Components (see: https://github.com/ILIAS-eLearning/ILIAS/pull/9177)

  • We started to look into each and every component that is listed and we are trying to find individual solutions for all components.
  • Please remove your usage of the component "CSV" or replace it with "Excel" until coding completed of ILIAS 11. You might either use that component directly or you might still have a legacy table that supports CSV exports. Please make sure to drop that dependency in both cases. There also is a mail about this on the developer-mailinglist.

Security-Updates:

Current Activities:

  • We talked with Karki, Sagun [sagun] from Minervis after being named as an additional new maintainer for SOAP & Web Services (besides Abijuru, Jephte [Jephte].
  • We are working on a bidding to visualize component depencies, which will be a neccessity to choose which automatic testing pipelines we will work on first
    • For example: automatic testing pipelines in the future may include accessibility testing for valid html 
  • The extension of the internal regulations governing software development processes was discussed with the Managing Board and the Advisory Board.
  • We have probably found another accessibility expert to join the UI/UX team and have a meeting with her tommorow

3 Miscellaneous

3.1 UI Clinic

Our UI/UX/A11y experts Yvonne Seiler and Kendra Grotz are offering bi-weekly UI clinic consultation hours for UI/UX and accessibility topics. The consultation hours are open for all users that need or are interested in related help for their ILIAS development activities. The UI Clinic consultation take place every Wednesday before the Jour Fixe from 10h30 to 11h30.

If you are interested in discussing an issue, please register here!.

3.2 Privacy Clinic

In the Privacy Clinic, you can get advice on how to protect user privacy and effectively navigate the complexities of data protection in the context of ILIAS. Our privacy experts Seidel, Elyesa [seidel], Gribchenko, Kseniia [ksgrie] and a member of the Technical Board are offerin support in all privacy related issues. The Privacy Clinic has consultation hours every Wednesday after the Jour Fixe from 13h30 to 14h00. Please announce the topic you want to discuss by e-mail: privacy@lists.ilias.de

3.3 Authorities

The process for changing authorities is described here.

3.3.1 Authorities to be Handed Over

For the following components there are authorities to be handed over: 

Community members who are willing to take over one of the offered authorities are highly appreciated. In case of interest, please contact the Technical Board.

3.3.2 Requests for Modifying Authorities

Requests to modifiy authorities exist for the following components [1]: 

3.3.3 Changed Authorities

Authorities have been changed for the following components: 

 

4 Maintained Versions

At the time being, we are maintaining ILIAS version 8 (security bug fixes only), version 9 and version 10.

4.1 Roadmap

LAST RELEASES

  • 10.0 (stable) published on 18 July 2025
  • 9.12 published on 15 July 2025
  • 8.22 published on 08 July 2025

NEXT RELEASES

  • ILIAS 10.1 stable planned for mid August 2025
  • ILIAS 9.13 planned for mid August 2025
  • ILIAS 8.23 not scheduled yet

8.18 was the last release of ILIAS 8 with all bugfixes. Since then, all releases for 8 contain only security bug fixes.

Lifecycles of maintained versions

  • ILIAS 8 : full maintenance ended at 31 DEC 2024, security bug fixes (only) until 31 DEC 2025.
  • ILIAS 9 : end of full maintenance at 31 DEC 2025, security bug fixes (only) until 30 JUN 2027.
  • ILIAS 10: end of full maintenance at 31 DEC 2026, security bug fixes (only) until 31 DEC 2027.

4.2 Mantis Reports

Needs Jour Fixe Decision

The following Mantis reports have been tagged with 'Needs Jour Fixe Decision' and were therefore be discussed in detail:

Postponed to next Jour Fixe

  • none

4.3 Mantis Statistic

Current information from Mantis:

                        * … Issues with status 'open' and 'fix.acc.prio.' are recorded.

To place the current data for each JourFixe in the context of a specific course of development, you can see the trend over the last months here.

4.4 Changed Behaviour in Maintained Versions

Below we list all changed behaviour in the full maintained ILIAS versions. This information is managed in a dedicated media pool to which all developers should have access. If not, please contact Kunkel, Matthias [mkunkel].

  • Data Collection: The new field type "Copy" was added to the data collection and can now be selected for new fields! A copy field shows a selection of values from another tables entry and copies those to its own value without a reference, making it robust against manipulation and deletion of the origin value.
  • …

4.5 Development Issues of Maintained Versions

The following development issues concern one or more maintained versions. Issues related to trunk are listed further below.

  • No issues to discuss today.

4.6 Pull Requests

4.6.1 Pull Requests for Maintained Versions

Pull requests in the ILIAS repository on GitHub that are related to maintained versions of ILIAS.

  • none

4.6.2 Looking for Shepherd

The following PRs are adressing components that are currently under no authority. So nobody has the authority to do the related code change and accept the PR. We are looking for shepherds that check and review the PR and merge it.

  1. PR7815 • Phpunit code coverage:
  2. PR9181 • Form: make autocomplete work for multi-text inputs (44429):
  3. PR9331 • [FIX] YUI: remove component and all includes.:
  4. PR9487 • Fix 44987: Dynamic rendering of MathJax 3 fails: …
  5. PR9568 • [Mantis:45078] Ensure "form" language module is loaded for ilFileInput: …

Thanks to all shepherds who already have checked pull requests and merged them (when okay)!

4.7 Continuous Integration

  • Unit Tests (trunk):
    • As of today, there are (executed with PHP 8.4) ./scripts/PHPUnit/run_tests.sh --random-order-seed 1720173999
      • 12602 (+4)
      • 32225 assertions (depends on the order of tests being executed / not stably determinable)
    • 0 failures (±0):
    • 32 skipped (±0):
      • See file below
    • 74 PHPUnit deprecations (±0) / 67 tests triggered 124 PHPUnit deprecations:
    • 2 PHP deprecations (±0)
      • Caused by the currently used version of Mustache, see file below
  • Code Style:
    • 459 violations (-16) ./vendor/composer/vendor/friendsofphp/php-cs-fixer/php-cs-fixer fix --config=./scripts/PHP-CS-Fixer/code-form
      at.php_cs --using-cache=no -vvv --dry-run components/ILIAS/* :
    • See file below
  • ilCtrl "// @todo: removed deprecated ilCtrl methods, this needs inspection by a maintainer."

PHPUnit Deprecations

5 Developing ILIAS 11

5.1 Timeline for ILIAS 11

  • Big Projects Jour Fixe on 25 November 2024 ✓
  • Dependency Jour Fixe on 09 December 2024 ✓
  • Coding completed: all features implemented and test cases finished until 28 October 2025
  • Release 11.0 beta1 and release-10 branch planned for 28 October 2025
  • Begin of testing scheduled for 31 October 2025
  • Run all test cases at least once until 06 Februar 2026
  • First stable 11.0 release planned for 17 March 2026
  • Full maintenance support for version 11 until 31December 2027
  • Security bug fixes only until 31 December 2028

5.2 Software Requirements for ILIAS 11

The required and supported software for ILIAS 11 is as follows:

  1. PHP:
  2. PHPUnit: 11.x
  3. Composer: Composer 2
  4. DBMS:
    • MariaDB: 10.5 – 10.11
    • MySQL:  > 8.0.21
  5. HTTP:
    • nginx:
      • Supported: information missing
      • Recommended: information missing
    • Apache: information missing
  6. JAVA:
    • information missing
  7. NodeJS:
    • Supported: 20 (LTS, 21)
    • Recommended: 20 (LTS)
  8. Other Software:
    • Ghostscript: information missing
    • MathJax (optional): information missing
    • ImageMagick (optional): information missing

5.3 Development Issues

  • none

5.4 Dependencies in 11

The policy of dependency handling has been changed with ILIAS 10. Please have a look at this README to know how we handle dependencies like third-party libraries and frameworks in ILIAS from now on.

The following pull requests have been set on the agenda to be discussed:

  • PR9840 • [FIX] JavaScript code-style (using eslint)
    • Status of maintenance: Unclear.
    • Used by: entire ILIAS code base.
    • Decision: Dependency is accepted for ILIAS 11.
    • Comment: We are not very happy to use this dependency in ILIAS 11 again. But changing the entire JS code style for 11 is not feasible. Therefore, we accept the dependency for ILIAS 11.

5.5 Deprecated for ILIAS 11

The following services, methods and UI elements are deprecated for ILIAS 11:

  • ILIAS/components/ILIAS/CSV
  • ILIAS/components/ILIAS/UIComponent
    • ilConfirmationGUI & ilConfirmationTableGUI
    • ilCheckboxListOverlayGUI
    • ilExplorer
    • ilSyntaxHighlighter
    • ilTextHighlighterGUI
    • ilToolbarGUI
    • ilTabsGUI
    • ilNestedList
  • ILIAS/components/ILIAS/Table

5.6 Pull Requests for Current Development / Trunk

The following pull requests in the ILIAS repository on GitHub are related to the current development activities in trunk.

Postponed to Next Jour Fixe

  • none

5.7 Preparing the Testing of ILIAS 11

5.7.1 Test Installation

Fabian Wolf will set up our next test installation test11.ilias.de soon. During a recent Jour Fixe, a discussion was started about whether to update the existing installation or start from scratch.

The product manager and the test manager prefer to keep major parts of the existing content from test10. As already annonced on test10 we have deleted the old sandbox and also pruned parts of the existing objects in our test category before updating.

If you need an empty test environment for select purposes, please contact Kruse, Fabian [Fabian] to discuss on how to proceed. Additonal existing (or possibly also new) test installations could be used for retests if required. Test cases could be amended accordingly.

5.7.2 Test Case Lab will return

After the culmination of the test phase for ILIAS 10, our Test Case Lab will return to improve existing test cases. 

Please contact Kruse, Fabian [Fabian] if you would like to participate.

5.8 Project 'Removing of Legacy-UIComponents-Service and Table'

  • Organisation : Next meeting on Monday, 14 August 2025, 10:00 – 11:30
  • Project Scope :
    • The prioritisation of topics is currently in discussion with the Technical Board.
    • Last meeting was used to discuss the status of some UI components – e.g.:
      • Field\TreeSelect and Field\TreeMultiSelect,
      • Filter Integration for UI Data Table, 
      • Confirmation Modals, 
      • TagInput with AutoCompletion,
      • Extending Markdown-Editor 
  • We are looking forward to the first uses of Field\Tree(Multi)Select and TagInput with AutoCompletion.
  • Project Funding : Nothing new at the moment.

5.9 Suggested Features for 11

  1. Permanent-Link for User Certificates Page: We highly appreciate this suggestion and accept the feature request for trunk.

  2. Add New Object Action for Item Groups: We had a longer discussion about the effects of this feature request. To get a clear view of what will change with feature request it would be highly appreciated if Stephan and Oliver could review this request and present in the summary the planned implementation.

  3. Identify existing Material Assignments of Objects of an Item Group: We highly appreciate this suggestion and accept the feature request for trunk. When switching this view to the next UI Data Table it would be great to add a filter as well and allow to filter for those objects that are not yet assigned to an object block. In addition, please look for some shorter column headlines to keep space and prevent multi-line headlines.

6 Participants

Participant

Joined VC

Abijuru, Jephte [Jephte]

Amstutz, Timon [amstutz]

x

Appel, Alina [alinaappel]

Asbih, Fadi [Fadi]

Auerswald, Kristina [kauerswald]

Becker, Matthias [matthias.becker]

x

Becker, Maximilian [mbecker]

x

Bechtold, Patrick [pbe]

Beym, Marvin [mBeym]

Bongers, Tim [tbongers-cat]

x

Clausen, Keven [keven.clausen]

Copado, Jesús [jcop]

Dahme, Daniel [qualitus.dahme]

Detemple, Konstanze [kdetemple]

x

Dobosz, Nicole [nicoledobosz]

x

Dyhr, Sven [sdyhr]

Eichenauer, Lukas [leichenauer]

Engländer, Ferdinand [fenglaender]

Falkenstein, Rob [rob]

Fischer, Yvonne [yvonne.fischer]

Fries, Tomke [TFries]

Fuhrer, Thibeau [tfuhrer]

x

Giebeler, Ina [igiebel1]

Glaubitz, Marko [mglaubitz]

Giercke-Ungermann, Annett [Annett_Giercke]

x

Gribchenko, Kseniia [ksgrie]

x

Großkopf, Katrin [katrin.grosskopf]

Grotz, Kendra [kgrotz]

x

Gruber, Ann-Christin [acgruber]

Haagen, Nils [nlz]

Hackfort, Marvin [m.hackfort]

x

Hartwig, Alex [hartwig@qualitus.de]

Helfer, Fabian [fhelfer]

Heim, Johannes [jheim]

Hergerdt, Marcel [mhergerdt]

Jacobs, Maximilian [m.jacobs]

Jäggi, Damian [fajaeggi]

Jackisch, Ingo [jackisch]

x

Jansen, Kelly [kjansen]

Jansen, Michael [mjansen]

Joußen, Thomas [tjoussen]

x

Karki, Sagun [sagun]

x

Kaufmann, Olivia [o.kaufmann]

Kergomard, Stephan [skergomard]

x

Killing, Alexander [alex]

Klees, Richard [rklees]

x

Knof, Christian [cknof]

x

Kohnle, Uwe [ukohnle]

Kozianka, Carsten [ckozianka]

Kruse, Fabian [Fabian]

Kunkel, Matthias [mkunkel]

x

Lorenz, Katharina [klorenz]

Lowe, Simon [simon.lowe]

x

Ludolf, Christoph [cludolf]

Meyer, Stefan [smeyer]

Saxler, Tobias [Tobias246810]

Neumann, Fred [fneumann]

Potter, Chris [ChrisPotter]

Rabah, Rachid [rabah]

Riebe, Katharina [kriebe]

x

Roeser, Nico [nicoroeser]

Samoila, Oliver [oliver.samoila]

x

Scharmer, Lukas [lscharmer]

Schmid, Fabian [fschmid]

x

Schmidt-Sielex, Wolfgang [WSS]

Schmitz, Tim [tschmitz]

x

Seibt, Alina [alina.seibt]

Seidel, Elyesa [seidel]

Seiler, Yvonne [yvseiler]

x

Solzbacher, Bettina [BettinaSolzbacher]

x

Stake, Sebastian [sstake]

x

Strassner, Denis [dstrassner]

x

Szmais, Ingmar [iszmais]

x

Tesche, Uwe [utesche]

Tödt, Alexandra [atoedt]

Vollbach, Guido [gvollbach]

Wandelmaier, Franziska [iv5526]

x

Wiegleb, Felix Jonas [jwiegleb]

Wischniak, Stanislav [wischniak]

Wolf, Fabian [fwolf]

Zehnder, Lukas [lzehnder]

Zych, Matheus [mzych]

[1] Announcing these changes is only necessary when the Authority to (De-)Assign Authorities is changed.

Last edited: 22. Jul 2025, 11:55, Kunkel, Matthias [mkunkel]