JourFixe-2025-06-23

Date and place

Monday, 23 June 2025 from 13:00 – 16:00 at VC meeting in BBB.

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1 Appointments

2 Technical Board

This topic on our agenda should improve the information flow between the Technical Board and the society members and ILIAS users.

Meetings:

Abandoned Components (see: https://github.com/ILIAS-eLearning/ILIAS/pull/9177)

Security-Updates:

Further:

3 Miscellaneous

3.1 UI Clinic

Our UI/UX/A11y experts Yvonne Seiler and Kendra Grotz are offering bi-weekly UI clinic consultation hours for UI/UX and accessibility topics. The consultation hours are open for all users that need or are interested in related help for their ILIAS development activities. The UI Clinic consultation take place every Wednesday before the Jour Fixe from 10h30 to 11h30.

If you are interested in discussing an issue, please register here!.

3.2 Privacy Clinic

In the Privacy Clinic, you can get advice on how to protect user privacy and effectively navigate the complexities of data protection in the context of ILIAS. Our privacy experts Seidel, Elyesa [seidel], Gribchenko, Kseniia [ksgrie] and a member of the Technical Board are offerin support in all privacy related issues. The Privacy Clinic has consultation hours every Wednesday after the Jour Fixe from 13h30 to 14h00. Please announce the topic you want to discuss by e-mail: privacy@lists.ilias.de

3.3 Authorities

The process for changing authorities is described here.

3.3.1 Authorities to be Handed Over

For the following components there are authorities to be handed over: 

Community members who are willing to take over one of the offered authorities are highly appreciated. In case of interest, please contact the Technical Board.

3.3.2 Requests for Modifying Authorities

Requests to modifiy authorities exist for the following components [1]: 

3.3.3 Changed Authorities

Authorities have been changed for the following components: 

4 Maintained Versions

At the time being, we are maintaining ILIAS version 8 and ILIAS version 9.

4.1 Roadmap

Lifecycles of maintained versions

4.2 Mantis Reports

Reports for ILIAS 8

With the end of full maintenance for ILIAS 8 at 31 December 2024, bugs that are not related to  security won't be fixed anymore for ILIAS 8. This has some impact on our bug reporting process:

Needs Jour Fixe Decision

The following Mantis reports have been tagged with 'Needs Jour Fixe Decision' and were therefore be discussed in detail:

Postponed to next Jour Fixe

4.3 Mantis Statistic

Current information from Mantis:

                        * … Issues with status 'open' and 'fix.acc.prio.' are recorded.

                        Various Issue Reports have been updated with the Request for Feedback on ILIAS 8 Issues. ILIAS 8 ist out of Full Maintenance.

4.4 Development Issues of Maintained Versions

The following development issues concern one or more maintained versions. Issues related to trunk are listed further below.

4.5 Pull Requests

4.5.1 Pull Requests for Maintained Versions

Pull requests in the ILIAS repository on GitHub that are related to maintained versions of ILIAS.

4.5.2 Looking for Shepherd

The following PRs are adressing components that are currently under no authority. So nobody has the authority to do the related code change and accept the PR. We are looking for shepherds that check and review the PR and merge it.

4.6 Continuous Integration

4.6.1 PHPUnit Deprecations

5 Preparing ILIAS 10

5.1 Timeline for ILIAS 10

5.2 Testing ILIAS 10

The official test installation for ILIAS 10 is available at: https://test10.ilias.de. It will be used for the pretest and the community testing. Accounts from test9 should work if not created after 11 July 2024.

5.2.1 Status Community Test

Changes

We need at least 4726 passed test cases to reach 98%. Today, we are 32 cases behind.

5.2.2 Open issues and retests

Components with more than 5 fails/blockers:

As already explained, many open issues still remain in test runs that register issues for several different  maintainers.

Components with more than 5 open retests:

5.2.3 Test Runs Closed with 100%

5.2.4 Status in Mantis for ILIAS 10

                        * … Issues with status 'open' and 'fix.acc.prio.' are recorded.

5.3 Software Requirements for ILIAS 10

The required and supported software for ILIAS 10 is as follows:

5.4 Development Issues

5.5 Dependencies

The following pull requests in the ILIAS repository on GitHub are related to ILIAS 10 and labeled with 'dependencies'.

5.6 Pull Requests for ILIAS 10

Pull requests in the ILIAS repository on GitHub that are related to version ILIAS 10.

6 Developing ILIAS 11

6.1 Timeline for ILIAS 11

6.2 Software Requirements for ILIAS 11

The required and supported software for ILIAS 11 is as follows:

6.3 Development Issues

1. Split-Up Standard Fields Table and Move to DataTable: During the development of this featureit  became progresively clearer to , that this feature request doesn't go far enough in the clean-up, so he suggests changes to clarify its structure and make it possible to manage these settings reasonably. 

   We highly appreciate Stephan's suggestion and accept the suggested changes as a dev issue for ILIAS 10. Concerning his questions:

   • We do not show the default values of settings in the settings table to avoid confusion.
   • We accept that "Preferences" are removed. We currently do not know what they are good for and why should keep them.

   Once the feature is fully implemented, please give a short description of what has changed in the user settings to get a clear view of the feature implementation. There is no need to move the screenshots and suggestions made in the Discussion part of the report up to chap. 3.

6.4 Dependencies in 11

The policy of dependency handling has been changed with ILIAS 10. Please have a look at this README to know how we handle dependencies like third-party libraries and frameworks in ILIAS from now on.

The following pull requests have been set on the agenda to be discussed:

6.5 Deprecated for ILIAS 11

The following services, methods and UI elements are deprecated for ILIAS 11:

6.6 Pull Requests for Current Development / Trunk

The following pull requests in the ILIAS repository on GitHub are related to the current development activities in trunk.

Postponed to Next Jour Fixe

6.7 Project 'Removing of Legacy-UIComponents-Service and Table'

6.8 Suggested Features for 11

1. Revision of the suffix ‘- copy‘ for object copies: We had a longer discussion about this feature request and see that it solves a problem at one side but creates new ones at others. We postpone the decision to the next JF to see if we go this way or if another fits better to the identified problems.

2. Include Delete Status in OAI-PMH Interface: We highly appreciate this suggestion and accept it for trunk.

3. LOM Support for Wikis: We highly appreciate this suggestion and accept it for trunk.

4. Different Fields for LOM Digest: We highly appreciate this suggestion and accept it for trunk.

5. Even more object types for OER Harvester: We highly appreciate this suggestion and accept it for trunk. Any kind of ordering of the object types (screenshot above) would be nice.

7 Participants