JourFixe-2025-04-28

Date and place

Monday, 28 April 2025 from 13:00 – 16:00 at VC meeting in BBB.

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1 Appointments

2 Technical Board

This topic on our agenda should improve the information flow between the Technical Board and the society members and ILIAS users.

New TB chosen by the General Assembly (Mitgliederversammlung):

Meetings:

Security-Updates:

Further:

Jansen, Michael [mjansen]: The "Shepherd-PR" https://github.com/ILIAS-eLearning/ILIAS/pull/9403 should be integrated asap, as it adjusts a lot of Unit-Tests. 

3 Miscellaneous

3.1 UI Clinic

Our UI/UX/A11y experts Yvonne Seiler, Kristina Auerswald and Kendra Grotz are offering bi-weekly UI clinic consultation hours for UI/UX and accessibility topics. The consultation hours are open for all users that need or are interested in related help for their ILIAS development activities. The UI Clinic consultation take place every Wednesday before the Jour Fixe from 10h30 to 11h30.

If you are interested in discussing an issue, please register here!.

3.2 Privacy Clinic

In the Privacy Clinic, you can get advice on how to protect user privacy and effectively navigate the complexities of data protection in the context of ILIAS. Our privacy experts Seidel, Elyesa [seidel], Gribchenko, Kseniia [ksgrie] and a member of the Technical Board are offerin support in all privacy related issues. The Privacy Clinic has consultation hours every Wednesday after the Jour Fixe from 13h30 to 14h00. Please announce the topic you want to discuss by e-mail: privacy@lists.ilias.de

3.3 Push Notifications

The Push Notification feature is now live on a seperate testing client: ilias-push.invorbereitung.de

Since this feature heavily depends on diverse software/hardware usages everyone  is encouraged to register and test it out! For more information please contact Szmais, Ingmar [iszmais].

3.4 Authorities

3.4.1 Authorities to be Handed Over

For the following components there are authorities to be handed over: 

Community members who are willing to take over one of the offered authorities are highly appreciated. In case of interest, please contact the Technical Board.

3.4.2 Requests for Modifying Authorities

Seeland, Per Pascal [PerPascalSeeland] would like to hand over authorities (see PR9402):

3.4.3 Changed Authorities

Authorities have been changed for the following components: 

3.5 Information about New and Changed Features

A new category in "Community" is notifying about new and changed features in the latest ILIAS versions, see https://docu.ilias.de/go/cat/16241. All new and changed features since ILIAS 7 are listed in a data collection. This information is based on the related Jour Fixe decisions and should help to get a quick overview on the current development activities and what has to be expected when updating to the next ILIAS version. The information is published in German.

We would like to thank ILIAS.nrw and Databay AG for maintaining this important knowledge base.

4 Maintained Versions

At the time being, we are maintaining ILIAS version 8 and ILIAS version 9.

4.1 Roadmap

Lifecycles of maintained versions

4.2 Mantis Reports

Reports for ILIAS 8

With the end of full maintenance for ILIAS 8 at 31 December 2024, bugs that are not related to  security won't be fixed anymore for ILIAS 8. This has some impact on our bug reporting process:

Needs Jour Fixe Decision

The following Mantis reports have been tagged with 'Needs Jour Fixe Decision' and were therefore be discussed in detail:

Postponed to next Jour Fixe

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4.3 Mantis Statistic

Current information from Mantis:

                        * … Issues with status 'open' and 'fix.acc.prio.' are recorded.

                        Various Issue Reports have been updated with the Request for Feedback on ILIAS 8 Issues. ILIAS 8 ist out of Full Maintenance.

4.4 Development Issues of Maintained Versions

The following development issues concern one or more maintained versions. Issues related to trunk are listed further below.

4.5 Pull Requests

4.5.1 Pull Requests for Maintained Versions

Pull requests in the ILIAS repository on GitHub that are related to maintained versions of ILIAS.

4.5.2 Looking for Shepherd

The following PRs are adressing components that are currently under no authority. So nobody has the authority to do the related code change and accept the PR. We are looking for shepherds that check and review the PR and merge it.

4.6 Continuous Integration

5 Preparing ILIAS 10

5.1 Timeline for ILIAS 10

5.2 Testing ILIAS 10

The official test installation for ILIAS 10 is available at: https://test10.ilias.de. It will be used for the pretest and the community testing. Accounts from test9 should work if not created after 11 July 2024.

5.2.1 Status Community Test

Changes

If we continue like this, a release might only be available in July. :-(

5.2.2 Open issues and retests

Components with more than 5 fails/blockers:

As already explained on last JF, many open issues still remain in test runs that register issues for several different  maintainers (in bolded text above).

Components with more than 5 open retests:

5.2.3 Test Runs Closed with 100%

5.2.4 Status in Mantis for ILIAS 10

                        * … Issues with status 'open' and 'fix.acc.prio.' are recorded.

5.3 Software Requirements for ILIAS 10

The required and supported software for ILIAS 10 is as follows:

5.4 Development Issues

5.5 Dependencies

The following pull requests in the ILIAS repository on GitHub are related to ILIAS 10 and labeled with 'dependencies'.

5.6 Pull Requests for ILIAS 10

Pull requests in the ILIAS repository on GitHub that are related to version ILIAS 10.

6 Developing ILIAS 11

6.1 Timeline for ILIAS 11

6.2 Software Requirements for ILIAS 11

The required and supported software for ILIAS 11 is as follows:

6.3 Dependencies in 11

The policy of dependency handling has been changed with ILIAS 10. Please have a look at this README to know how we handle dependencies like third-party libraries and frameworks in ILIAS from now on.

The following pull requests have been set on the agenda to be discussed:

6.4 Deprecated for ILIAS 11

The following services, methods and UI elements are deprecated for ILIAS 11:

6.5 Pull Requests for Current Development / Trunk

The following pull requests in the ILIAS repository on GitHub are related to the current development activities in trunk.

Postponed to Next Jour Fixe

6.6 Project 'Removing of Legacy-UIComponents-Service and Table'

6.7 Suggested Features for 11

1. Move Search Results Presentation to KS: We highly appreciate this suggestion and accept the feature request for trunk with the following modification:

   • After clicking on "See detailed results" the modal should clearly indicate for which object these details are shown (title of object). This helps users and give them better orientation.
   • We accept using a modal and page navigation within the modal due to currently missing alternatives in the modal implementation. A future way could be a "Show more" button at the bottom of the current list and showing all sub-items within a scrollable content presentation.

2. Revision and Enhancement of the ‘Personal Default Settings‘: We highly appreciate this suggestion and accept the feature for trunk.

3. Test: Abandon Additional Info-Page Information and Setting for Info-Page: We highly appreciate this suggestion and abandon the presentation of 'Additional Information' on the test's Info page for trunk. Once the 'Info' page as a component is abandoned, the setting to hide the 'Info' page will be removed as well. But for consistency reasons we'll keep it until then.

4. Test: Abandon Notifications: We highly appreciate this suggestion and abandon the current implementation of notifications in the T&A for trunk. 

5. Test: Pseudonymization of Names for Manual Scoring: We highly appreciate this suggestion and accept the feature for trunk. Please change the position of the new permission and place it above "Edit Settings" to follow the pattern that momentous actions are placed after less momentous ones. Matthias will also provide a Mantis report to re-sort the current permissions for the test object.

7 Participants