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JourFixe-2023-11-13

Date and place

Monday, 13 November 2023 from 13:0015:20 at VC meeting in BBB.

If you like to participate at the Jour Fixe, please join our BigBlueButton-based Jour Fixe VC!
We recommend to use BBB in Chrome (or Firefox).

Participant

Joined VC

Abijuru, Jephte [Jephte]

Amstutz, Timon [amstutz]

x

Auerswald, Kristina [kauerswald]

Becker, Matthias [matthias.becker]

x

Becker, Maximilian [mbecker]

x

Bechtold, Patrick [pbe]

Beym, Marvin [mBeym]

Bongers, Tim [tbongers-cat]

Brauns, Johanna [jbrauns]

Copado, Jesús [jcop]

x

Detemple, Konstanze [kdetemple]

x

Engländer, Ferdinand [fenglaender]

Falkenstein, Rob [rob]

Famula, Thomas [tfamula]

x

Fischer, Yvonne [yvonne.fischer]

Fuhrer, Thibeau [tfuhrer]

Giebeler, Ina [igiebel1]

Glaubitz, Marko [mglaubitz]

Gribchenko, Kseniia [ksgrie]

x

Großkopf, Katrin [katrin.grosskopf]

Grotz, Kendra [kgrotz]

x

Gruber, Ann-Christin [acgruber]

x

Günther, Andre

x

Haagen, Nils [nlz]

Helfer, Fabian [fhelfer]

Heim, Johannes [jheim]

Houssi, Dhouha

Jacobs, Maximilian [m.jacobs]

Jäggi, Damian [fajaeggi]

x

Jansen, Michael [mjansen]

x

Kaufmann, Olivia [o.kaufmann]

Kergomard, Stephan [skergomard]

x

Killing, Alexander [alex]

x

Klees, Richard [rklees]

x

Knof, Christian [cknof]

x

Koch, Karola [kkoch]

x

Kohnle, Uwe [ukohnle]

x

Kruse, Fabian [Fabian]

x

Kunkel, Matthias [mkunkel] (Minutes)

x

Lorenz, Katharina [klorenz]

x

Lowe, Simon [simon.lowe]

Ludolf, Christoph [cludolf]

x

Meyer, Stefan [smeyer]

Mix, Eva [emix]

Müller, Tobias [Tobias246810]

Neumann, Fred [fneumann]

Rabah, Rachid [rabah]

Riebe, Katharina [kriebe]

Roeser, Nico [nicoroeser]

x

Rüping, Stefan

Samoila, Oliver [oliver.samoila]

x

Scharmer, Lukas [lscharmer]

Schmid, Fabian [fschmid]

x

Schmidt-Sielex, Wolfgang

Schmitz, Tim [tschmitz]

x

Seeland, Per Pascal [PerPascalSeeland]

x

Seibt, Alina [alina.seibt]

Seidel, Elyesa

x

Seiler, Yvonne [yvseiler]

x

Sesterhenn, Fabian [sesterhenn]

Solzbacher, Bettina [BettinaSolzbacher]

x

Spirou, Ilias [ispirou]

x

Stake, Sebastian [sstake]

x

Stepper, Christian [christian.stepper]

Strassner, Denis [dstrassner]

x

Szmais, Ingmar [iszmais]

x

Tesche, Uwe [utesche]

x

Tödt, Alexandra [atoedt]

Vollbach, Guido [gvollbach]

x

Vejda, Stefan

Weber, Jens

x

Wischniak, Stanislav

Wolf, Fabian [fwolf]

Zehnder, Lukas [lzehnder]

Zenzen, Enrico [ezenzen]

1 Appointments

Workshops / Working GroupS

If you want to participate at one of the above mentioned workshops, please register for the related session. This helps to organise the workshop. Thanks!

Jour Fixe

  • Monday, 27 November 2023, 13.00 – 18.00 (Big Project Jour Fixe)
  • Monday, 11 December 2023, 13.00 – 18.00
  • Monday, 08 January 2024, 13.00 – 18.00
  • Monday, 22 January 2024, 13.00 - 18.00

2 Miscellaneous

2.1 UI Clinic

Our UI/UX/A11y experts Yvonne Seiler, Kristina Auerswald and Kendra Grotz are offering bi-weekly UI clinic consultation hours for UI/UX and accessibility topics. The consultation hours are open for all users that need or are interested in related help for their ILIAS development activities. The UI Clinic consultation hours take place every Tuesday before Jour Fixe from 14h30 to 15h00.

If you are interested in discussing an issue, please register here!. Notice: There will be no UI Clinic on 07 November due to the ILIASuisse meeting.

2.2 Style Guide for English Language

Our expert for English language, Chris Potter, has created a Style Guide for English Language in ILIAS to help developers when writing English labels and bylines. Major aim is to improve the quality and the consistence of the English language file. We kindly please all developers to have a look at this style guide and follow its recommendations!

In addition, Chris is currently revising the entire ilias_en.lang for ILIAS 9 and corrects and streamline the texts. This already came with a couple of commits in the last weeks (and still will go on).

In case of questions to the style guide or the correct use of English language in ILIAS, please feel free to contact Chris.

2.3 Maintainerships

2.3.1 Maintainerships to be Handed Over

The following maintainerships are offered for takeover by another developer:

  • Administration: Alexander Killing and Stefan Meyer (2nd maintainer) would like to hand over maintainership of Services/Administration to an interested developer. Code is in good state and the service ready to be used with PHP 8.

Developers willing to take over a maintainership are highly appreciated. Please contact the Technical Board if you are interested in taking over the maintainership.

2.3.2 New or Changed Maintainerships

3 Maintained Versions

At the time being, we are maintaining ILIAS version 7 and Version 8.

3.1 Roadmap

LAST RELEASES

  • ILIAS 9.0 beta1 has been published at 30 OCT 2023
  • ILIAS 8.6 has been published at 23 OCT 2023
  • ILIAS 7.26 published at 23 OCT 2023

NEXT RELEASES

  • ILIAS 9.0 beta1 is planned for 12 DEC 2023
  • ILIAS 8.7 is planned for November 2023
  • ILIAS 7.27 is planned for December 2023

Lifecycles of maintained versions

  • ILIAS 7 : end of maintenance of ILIAS 7 is expected for April 2024 when we hopefully have a stable ILIAS 9 release. Otherwise, the maintenance of 7 is extended accordingly.
  • ILIAS 8 : end of full maintenance at 31 DEC 2024, security bug fixes (only) until 31 DEC 2025.

3.2 Mantis Reports

The following Mantis reports have been tagged with 'Needs Jour Fixe Decision' and were therfore be discussed in detail:

  1. #38582: Eigenschaften der Instanz nur angezeigt, wenn Medienobjekt mehrfach genutzt: We follow the suggestion of the maintainer and allow to show the mentioned tabs for instances also when only one exists.
  2. #38719: Trunk: Login fails due to Symbol Renderer: Richard notified us about the implication of the component revision and the fact that including classes is no longer necessary as it is already made by the auto-loader. There is no clear vote for a CWD (current working directory) vs. other path schemes.

Postponed to next Jour Fixe:

  • none

3.3 Mantis Statistic

3.3.1 General Statistic

Current information from Mantis:

                        * … Issues with status 'open' and 'fix.acc.prio.' are recorded.

3.3.2 Statistic per Developer

Due to reported inconsistencies of the presented data from Mantis, the presentation of the statistic per developer is postponed to a later JF. First, we have to assure the correctness of the data generated by our script.

3.4 Development Issues of Maintained Versions

The following development issues concern one or more maintained versions. Issues related to upcoming versions have to be added in chapter 4.

  • none

3.5 Pull Requests to be Discussed

The following pull requests in the ILIAS repository on GitHub were marked with 'Jour Fixe':

  1. PR6407 • 10/tb/add criteria and review for deps: Stephan notified us about the PR and the described process to handle and control the dependencies within ILIAS. PR is accepted for trunk. The first Jour Fixe to discuss and decide about our deps for ILIAS 10 is schedeluded for 11 DEC 2023.
  2. PR • : …

Postponed to next JF:

3.6 Continuous Integration

Michael could not provide any feedback due to problems with his local (trunk) environment.

4 Preparing ILIAS 9

4.1 Timeline for ILIAS 9

Due to the changed timeline of ILIAS 8 we had to fundamentally change the schedule for ILIAS 9. The aim was to secure sufficient resources for the completion of ILIAS 8 and to take away the time pressure for the programming of ILIAS 9. In short, the release plan for ILIAS 9 has been postponed by one year.

  • Feature freeze at April 30, 2023: deadline to suggest new features for this version
  • Coding completed: all features implemented and test cases finished until October 27, 2023
  • Release 9.0 beta1 and release-9 branch planned for October 30, 2023
  • Begin of testing phase scheduled for October 31, 2023
  • End of testing phase planned for Februar 02, 2024
  • First stable 9.0 release planned for March 15, 2024
  • Full maintenance support for version 9: until December 31, 2025
  • Security bug fixes only: until December 31, 2026

4.2 Software Requirements for ILIAS 9

The required and supported software for ILIAS 9 is as follows:

  1. PHP:
    • ILIAS 9 will support PHP 8.1 and 8.2.
    • Support for PHP 7.4 and 8.0 will be dropped.
  2. PHPUnit: 10.x
  3. Composer: Composer 2
  4. DBMS:
    • MariaDB: 10.3, 10.4, 10.5, 10.6 (we recommend to use MariaDB)
    • MySQL:  8.0
  5. HTTP:
    • nginx:
      • Supported: 1.12.x  - 1.18.x
      • Recommended: 1.18.x
    • Apache >= 2.4.x
  6. JAVA:
    • JAVA 8 when using ilServer.jar
    • JAVA 11 when installing Maven (see related feature request)
  7. NodeJS:
    • Supported: 16 (LTS) + maybe next LTS version (has to be evaluated when released), 17, 18
    • Recommended: 16 (LTS)
  8. Other Software:
    • Ghostscript:
      • Supported/Recommended: 9.51
    • MathJax (optional): Supported 2.7 and >=3.2, Recommended: 2.7
    • ImageMagick
      • Support/Recommended: 6.9.x / 6.9.11-60 Q16

4.3 Important Changes

/images directory : the subdirectory structure of /templates/default/images has been changed and more subdirectories have been introduced to to provide a faster and better overview of the existing image files. In addition, it will fix Mantis issue #35768.

In case of lost images (broken pathes), please create a Mantis report and assign it to CSS component.

4.4 Status of Development

This is the status of the development of ILIAS Release 9 after Coding Completed at 27 OCT 2023:

Status

Number of features

Implemented and published in trunk

140

Abandoned and removed from code

28

Scheduled but not implemented/abondoned

24

4.5 Testing ILIAS 9

4.5.1 Roadmap

  • Testing phase of ILIAS 9 starts at October 31, 2023 on test9.ilias.de
    • Pretests from October 31 until November 10, 2023
    • Community testing starts at November 13, 2023
  • All test cases have to be run at least once until Februar 02, 2024
  • Retests have to be finished until March 11.
  • First stable release of ILIAS 9 is scheduled for March 15, 2024.

4.5.2 Mantis Statistic

Current information from Mantis:

                        * … Issues with status 'open' and 'fix.acc.prio.' are recorded.

4.5.3 Test Objects for Plugin Interfaces

There are several plugin interfaces in the ILIAS core that are tested during the beta testing, too. For some of them test objects are provided to test the interface properly.

  • https://github.com/ILIAS-eLearning/TestRepositoryObject : supports ILIAS 9
  • https://github.com/ILIAS-eLearning/TestPageComponent : supports ILIAS 9
  • https://github.com/ILIAS-eLearning/TestCronInterface : supports ILIAS 9
  • https://github.com/ILIAS-eLearning/TestPluginSetup : supports ILIAS 9
  • https://github.com/ILIAS-eLearning/TestCalendarCustomGrid : not ready yet
  • https://github.com/leifos-gmbh/TestCalendarCustomModal : not ready yet
  • https://github.com/leifos-gmbh/CascadingSelect : not ready yet

We kindly ask all maintainers of components with related test objects to provide an updated and running test object until 15 November 2023 at the latest. In case that test objects can no longer be offered and the related interface be maintained, please create an abandon article and present it at the next Jour Fixe.

5 Developing ILIAS 10

5.1 Timeline for ILIAS 10

  • Big Projects Jour Fixe at November 27, 2023
  • Feature freeze at April 30, 2024
  • Coding completed: all features implemented and test cases finished until October 25, 2024
  • Release 10.0 beta1 and release-10 branch planned for October 28, 2024
  • Beginn of testing phase scheduled for October 30, 2024
  • End of testing phase planned for Februar 05, 2025
  • First stable 10.0 release planned for March 13, 2025
  • Full maintenance support for version 10: until December 31, 2026
  • Security bug fixes only: until December 31, 2027

5.2 Suggestions for Big Project Jour Fixe

Big development projects for ILIAS 10 will be discussed on the Jour Fixe at 27 November 2023. Suggestions for big projects have to be made in the dedicated data collection Big Development Projects for ILIAS 10 until 20 November 2023.

You can pick-up existing projects (ongoing or on-hold) or suggest new projects. Every suggestion has to refer to an already existing project page (if it doesn't exist yet, please create it first before adding an entry to the data collection). The wiki page Projects lists all existing project pages. This is also the place to create a new project page.

5.3 Deprecated for ILIAS 10

The following services, methods and UI elements are deprecated for ILIAS 10:

  • Services/Table
  • Services/UIComponent
    • Checkbox List Overlay
    • Confirmation & Confirmation Table
    • Explorer & Explorer2
    • Glyph
    • Grouped List
    • Lightbox (Has been removed from trunk while ILIAS 9 has being developed.)
    • Modal
    • Nested List
    • Overlay
    • Panel
    • Progress Bar
    • Split Button
    • Syntax Highlighter
    • Tabs
    • Text Highlighter
    • Toolbar
    • Tooltip
  • Services/FileSystem
    • ilFile
    • ilFileData
    • ilFileDataImport
    • ilFileSystemAbstractionStorage
    • ilFileSystemGUI
    • ilFileSystemTableGUI
    • ilUploadFiles
  • Services/Database
    • ilDBAnalyzer
    • ilDBGenerator
  • Services/FileDelivery (replacement will be done with PR)
    • ilFileDelivery
  • Services/PermanentLink (replacement will be done with PR)
    • ilLink
  • Services/Utilities (ongoing)
    • ilArrayUtil
    • ilLegacyFormElementsUtil
    • ilShellUtil
    • ilStr
    • ilUtil

5.4 Important Changes

  1. none

5.5 Development Issues

5.6 Project 'Removing of Legacy-UIComponents-Service and Table'

  • Status ILIAS 10
    • Work in progress. (e.g. UI Data Table, Ordering Table, Confirmation Modal)
    • DateTime-Pickerbased on HTML5 is implemented now.
    • DateTime-Picker to KS Filter is in Review » PR #6444
  • Next appointments:
    • Follow-Up Workshop to Legacy Toolbars : Monday, 20 November 2023, 14:30 - 16:00
    • Bi-Weekly-Meeting : Monday, 04 December 2023, 14:30 - 16:00

5.7 Suggested Features for 10

  1. Revision of Logging in Test: Refactoring and Migration: We highly appreciate this suggestion and schedule the feature for ILIAS 10.

  2. Revision of Logging in Test: Interface Overhaul: We highly appreciate this suggestion and schedule the feature for ILIAS 10.

  3. Add Unique Certificate ID for Certificate Editor: We still would like to have this feature and re-schedule the FR. Feature suggestion is accepted for ILIAS 10.

  4. IRSS: Migrate Media Objects to IRSS: We highly appreciate this suggestion and schedule the feature for ILIAS 10.

  5. Create HTML Media Objects from HTML Snippets: We had a longer discussion about the security problems of supporting HTML files wihtin ILIAS. For current status of handling HTML in media objects see Supported Formats for Media Objects. Therefore, we postpone the decision about this feature request. The TB will first discuss and decide upon a general handling of HTML files in ILIAS and if we still want to support this. Based on the TB decision we will decide on this request.

  6. Permission Control for Media Objects: We postpone the decision about this FR as it is strongly related to the decision about Create HTML Media Objects from HTML Snippets.


Last edited: 13. Nov 2023, 15:20, Kunkel, Matthias [mkunkel]